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  More payouts for sex abuse

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  there a number of threads going back 10 years regarding gilbert simental, a jw child sex predator.

  this is the latest article.

  watchtower you lost again.. https://legalnewsline.com/stories/511687317-california-court-upholds-4-million-sex-abuse-judgment-against-jehovah-s-witnesses-watchtower-organization.

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  The Fall Guy

  Is this the same case where $30m in punitive damages was also awarded - on top of the measly $4m?

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5701923312238592/want-read-montana-nunez-v-watchtower-trial-transcript-now-available-read

  According to the very last pager in the court documents.
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  New rules for child sexual abuse?

  by formerministerial in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a european jehovah's witness, who served in an important branch, has sent me the following rumor.. some serious sources are mentioned.

  it clearly shake my perspective of what is going to happen in the coming months.. i'm totally shocked !.

  the law firm managing all the interests of the wt has studied the problem in europe on data protection and actions on files and protocols of child abuse.

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  The Fall Guy

  @ Burnedout - I remember reading advice on the internet for charity trustees which strongly advised them to take out personal liability insurance, because trustees are individually and collectively liable if their charity is sued.

  In the UK, all elders are trustees of their congregation charity.
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  Joke Sharing Thread

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  got a good joke or two?

  why not share them.

  here is a fun one.. retirement can be fun.

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  The Fall Guy

  For Scottish folks:

  Kelvinside in Glasgow is well-off, posh area which in years gone by was renowned for its posh accent.

  Interviewer: "Excuse me madam, do Kelvinside residents ever talk about sex? (sacks)

  Kelvinside Lady: No, we just give them back to the coal-man when they're empty.

  Interviewer: Are you bothered by the rates in Kelvinside?

  Kelvinside Lady: We don't have rates, just big mace! (mice)
  
  
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  Update on Scary Experience

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  update on this:.

  just been to the police station with my friends where we were asked individually to identify aknife.

  it looks identical to the one we saw.

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  The Fall Guy

  Zing, it sounds very much that these victims have been targeted because you and your friends managed to escape.

  If these scum are caught, they should never be allowed to live in society ever again
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  Active JW's: If asked, can you explain/defend this belief?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as all jw's and awakened ex-jw's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the wtbts, the ccojw, and the governing body (aka the organization) were personally selected by god/christ.. 1) mr. rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  2) in 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only gb members were chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  (wt july 2013, p.22, par.

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  @SoundofTruth - Questions are not unfair - answers which conceal truths are unfair, and that is what the org does with its literature.

  @ Nitty Gritty - Par. 2 says this - "It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel."

  When God wanted people to be clearly identified as His representatives, they were! The Bible gives ample warnings about "wolves in sheep's clothing" and how to spot them;

  (Deuteronomy 18:21, 22) However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’

  Christians were instructed to test the teachings they were being given, (1 John 4:1) but as we both know, as an active JW, cannot question or disagree with anything the literature says - due to fear of the consequences.

  When I was a zealous JW no one could challenge or weaken my faith, because I was a JW and had "the truth."

  An offer to you both: PM me and I'll share some important Bible questions with you - and I'd like to hear your answers - questions which no JW can raise without being dragged into the elders' room and accused of being spiritually weak or apostate.

  Interestingly, when I asked a trolley elder one of these questions, his reply was, "I don't want to argue with you. You can write to our Branch with any questions."

  He couldn't/wouldn't answer the question in front of the young M.S. next to him. Fear of the truth!
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  Active JW's: If asked, can you explain/defend this belief?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as all jw's and awakened ex-jw's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the wtbts, the ccojw, and the governing body (aka the organization) were personally selected by god/christ.. 1) mr. rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  2) in 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only gb members were chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  (wt july 2013, p.22, par.

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  The Fall Guy

  As all JW's and awakened ex-JW's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the WTBTS, the CCoJW, and the Governing Body (aka the organization) were personally selected by God/Christ.

  1) Mr. Rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by God/Christ to be the faithful slave.

  2) In 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in Brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only GB members were chosen by God/Christ to be the faithful slave. (WT July 2013, p.22, par. 10)

  Question: Apart from these men's (conflicting) claims, is there a shred of Biblical evidence to support either of these claims and the timing, and to justify your "faith" in this self-appointed hierarchy?

  Evidence can be sent via PM if desired. Start 2019 with an honest and open heart.
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  What are your favourite Christmas songs?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's one of mine .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyotvgpn0ru .

  how about you?.

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  The Fall Guy

  All-time classic!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMtteocAA80
  
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  JW.org video

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone remember the video the jw came out with that showed the mom getting a phone call from her disfellowshipped daughter?

  she is tempted to answer but doesn't .

  she wants to be faithful to jehovah.

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  The Fall Guy

  @ scary21 - "My mom still believed the rule from 1974-1980 that you could talk to family members, just not about spiritual things."

  That rule applies to JW's who are still living at home, with a disfellowshipped husband, wife, or child.
  
  
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  Want to read the Montana Nunez v. Watchtower Trial Transcript? It's now available to read

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the trial transcript of nunez v. watchtower (426 pages) has been made available from scaars which is the acronym for a new a 501(c)(4) lobbying corporation, sexual child abuse - advocates for reform and safety (scaars).. .

  the scaars corporation was formed october 3, 2018 by barbara anderson and former elder, roger bentley and his wife, karin.

  on the home page of the scaars website, scaars.org, you will find information that explains the goal of the movement - scaars: "changing laws - changing lives.".

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  The Fall Guy

  Thanks for this Barbara & Joe.

  And I'll bet the WTBTS & CCoJW are optimistic about 2019 - not! Pain upon pain for the cult. :)
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  Question abouth wrong doing

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some years ago watchtower wrote that some arrangement in the organisation, they probably made wrong.

  some months ago tony morris said that faithful slave is not perfect and could have done some arrangements organisation wrong.

  do you think they meant the two witness rule, the disfellowshipping arrangement or anything else?

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  The Fall Guy

  The "faithful slave masters" know that the genie is out of the bottle, so excuses are put out to do a bit of damage limitation.

  JW minions should scripturally examine why they accept/believe the org's dogma of confession to elders? (JW's good - Catholics bad!)

  JW's - go and read Matthew 18:15-17 yet again - for the umpteenth time.

  Did Jesus say you you were to confess to any elders? Can you see it now, or are the scales still on the eyes?